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'League of champions' questions

Post by PCreeper1 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:23 am

Hey guys, i've put myself up for that champions thing and i have a few questions

1. What do you guys define 'flaming' the enemy or team (Like passive aggressive or full out screaming)? Is there consequence for doing such actions? How much is too much?

2. Why are there no prohibited tactics?

3. What difference will it make being in the loser bracket than the leader bracket in the finals? What will happen if the losers win?

4. How will we know when to start the game? Will we be contacted?

If i think of more i'll probably ask :V
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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by Mr. Darkness » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:26 am

PCreeper1 wrote:Hey guys, i've put myself up for that champions thing and i have a few questions

1. What do you guys define 'flaming' the enemy or team (Like passive aggressive or full out screaming)? Is there consequence for doing such actions? How much is too much?

2. Why are there no prohibited tactics?

3. What difference will it make being in the loser bracket than the leader bracket in the finals? What will happen if the losers win?

4. How will we know when to start the game? Will we be contacted?

If i think of more i'll probably ask :V
1. Its pretty much saying something that would aggro your enemy and turn the entire match into a bunch of kids fighting eachother which we do not want. We want the tournament to be fun and enjoyable for everyone. If you flame or insult them you probably will get expelled.

2. There are no prohibited tactics because this update focuses a lot on rebalancing characters and their mechanics. There never were really, you could rush partisan armies on the 5th minute and win a game which is still fair, just boring to watch and do. Besides, you only got 1.5 days to learn how new units work before the tournament. Rebels can only rush rebel smg from start while combine can only go with riot metrocops, soldiers and metrocops with smg from start.

3. The difference is that in Loser bracket players more rely on themselves (FFA, 4v4, 2v2v2v2, 1v1) while Leader bracket has it differently: 4vs4 then 2vs2 then 1vs1. The players who make it to 1vs1 from the beginning are in pre-finals.

4. Players will receive their schedule on the News feed and Steam announcements. They will see the time they are playing and who they are playing with. The Qualifiers schedule will appear on 20th of August. If that's possible I'll try to contact players and tell them about it, tho for me its problematic to do due to my FULL GOD DAMN FRIEND LIST.

Ask more questions if needed :)
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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by Goliath Vietnam » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:26 pm

I want to ask developers about "Tournarment"

1/ since this is Pro league >> Like Starcraft 2 and Company of Heroes (not second version , Soviets is weak and German allways win ) .Why all those "Tournament" i see on those RTS game are allways 1 v1 , why Lambda Wars make 4v4 and 3v3 as "Qualifie Round"

Honestly , since Age of empire and Dawn of wars i have played since my chilhood , 1v1 are allways the match for Streaming + champions league . The host of those League NEVER put 2v2 , or not even 4v4 on their match schedules

EVER ! Public match is 2v2 ,3v3, 4v4 . i think developers are making a mistake since ALL RTS E-Sport Pro Match are 1v1

This is not a question mark , but i want developers re-think about Rules and Match schedues , since players are NOT on LAN event like Starcraft , we are Internationale players with difference time zone . So i think 1v1 is fast , take skill , and easy for both The host + The competitive players

2/ The Price : a colour font chat + icon next ot your name ...... im feels LOL :lol: :roll: :mrgreen:

Can developers make at least 1 Steam Gift as a price ? :DDDDD

3/ If you guys developers NOT taking this Tournament in a Serious way ( for fun and marketing games ,....)

Can we doing Youtube Stream live giveaway for audience ( like if you can guest the Winner of that Live Stream , you can get some price like Steam Gift 8) ) ??

Thanks for your patience , if if saying too much , forgive me cuz im only care about good RTS + good dev team ( not like those have ruined Compaany of Heroes 2 with DLC bla bla and game ballance based on " Real History prove German reckt mlg 360 Soviets Russia and The Allies force > GG Pantherz tank ) :lol:
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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by Mr. Darkness » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:56 pm

Its a hard decision.
I thought up a system that would show how experienced players are in different scenarios, but if you really think that 1v1 an option for a MUST I may re-make it, though I still don't know if I want to.

Pehaps I'll make it just 2v2 for leaders. As for the loser branch I will keep the FFA and 2v2v2v2 ones in.
See this, I'm trying to make it more interesting than just 1vs1 :)

And yeah there are no real big prizes at the moment, there is just status (aka medals and colored names) for those who win in it, along with requests.
Mr. Darkness: fucking game
Sandern: yeah, game sucks
Mr. Darkness: ya, the devs must be some total twats
Mr. Darkness: Who even names a game like that
Mr. Darkness: "Lambda Wars"
Mr. Darkness: fucking pathetic
Mr. Darkness: right?
Sandern: yes

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by JJ » Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:38 pm

Well, if the tournament is about having individual winners, then playing with any number of team mates doesn't make sense. Different scenarios would be like special maps or game conditions. With random team mates, people could move forward or get knocked out of the tournament when their individual skill says otherwise.
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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by szalmazsak » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:10 pm

i agree with Vietnam, there should be only 1vs1. It is hard to get even 4 player to get fast in game , not even 8 player..

Also JJ, i agree forrest and slum isnot really good map for 1v1, but also a village maps neither. There should be maps with half the size of woodland for 1v1.(or 2 times slum/forrest)

anyway,
-how long can we join to the tournament? I may see if it changes with the teamgames, and or what kind of players join, because now i can get into top3 easily.

-will there be broadcasting for matches?

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by Mr. Darkness » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:52 pm

JJ wrote:Well, if the tournament is about having individual winners, then playing with any number of team mates doesn't make sense. Different scenarios would be like special maps or game conditions. With random team mates, people could move forward or get knocked out of the tournament when their individual skill says otherwise.
Which is why I suggested the FFA mode.
I guess I'm keeping Free for All for loser branch (to get loose of 7 players) and 1vs1 for after the free for all.
szalmazsak wrote: anyway,
-how long can we join to the tournament? I may see if it changes with the teamgames, and or what kind of players join, because now i can get into top3 easily.

-will there be broadcasting for matches?
You can join before 21st of August.

There might be broadcasting for matches, I just dont clearly have who to broadcast.
Mr. Darkness: fucking game
Sandern: yeah, game sucks
Mr. Darkness: ya, the devs must be some total twats
Mr. Darkness: Who even names a game like that
Mr. Darkness: "Lambda Wars"
Mr. Darkness: fucking pathetic
Mr. Darkness: right?
Sandern: yes

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by szalmazsak » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:33 am

FFA is bad aswell, you just wait out until others kill each other. :/

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by Mr. Darkness » Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:20 am

szalmazsak wrote:FFA is bad aswell, you just wait out until others kill each other. :/
You rely on your own skills here, and not on those of your team mates. I am keeping FFA in.
Besides, a good player can easilly destroy all his enemies in FFA ;). This is needed to decrease the big amount of loser's bracket contenders.
Mr. Darkness: fucking game
Sandern: yeah, game sucks
Mr. Darkness: ya, the devs must be some total twats
Mr. Darkness: Who even names a game like that
Mr. Darkness: "Lambda Wars"
Mr. Darkness: fucking pathetic
Mr. Darkness: right?
Sandern: yes

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by szalmazsak » Wed Aug 19, 2015 3:24 pm

Mr. Darkness wrote:
szalmazsak wrote:FFA is bad aswell, you just wait out until others kill each other. :/
You rely on your own skills here, and not on those of your team mates. I am keeping FFA in.
Besides, a good player can easilly destroy all his enemies in FFA ;). This is needed to decrease the big amount of loser's bracket contenders.

and lets say in FFA, there are two people who know each other, and helps each other so one of them can win the game?

or lets say, i know one who is a threath to me, and i fast rush him with like (old) partisans or anything, then easily beat the rest of 6 , then that guy is out of tournament even if he could get the top1 place?



or i attack someone in early game, but i fail, then i am in a very bad situation, because i dont have any army, and anyone can kill me in 1 minute..

or , again this two good player, 6 bad player situation. 1 good player stays in defensive, while other good players kills his two enemy beside him, so he gets 3 times more resources, then basically he wins the game, no matter what.

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by Mr. Darkness » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:04 pm

Cooperation in FFA is not allowed in the game. I checked the players friend lists already and know who to match together. There are jsut a few who have common friends.

The guy in loser bracket would no way make it to 1st place simply because he lost agaisnt a dev, while those who win are way better. Besides, if he actually does lose hes simply bad, nuff said?

It all depends on your survival skills, which is why FFA can last long enough.
Mr. Darkness: fucking game
Sandern: yeah, game sucks
Mr. Darkness: ya, the devs must be some total twats
Mr. Darkness: Who even names a game like that
Mr. Darkness: "Lambda Wars"
Mr. Darkness: fucking pathetic
Mr. Darkness: right?
Sandern: yes

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by szalmazsak » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:04 am

Mr. Darkness wrote:Cooperation in FFA is not allowed in the game. I checked the players friend lists already and know who to match together. There are jsut a few who have common friends.

The guy in loser bracket would no way make it to 1st place simply because he lost agaisnt a dev, while those who win are way better. Besides, if he actually does lose hes simply bad, nuff said?

It all depends on your survival skills, which is why FFA can last long enough.

there is a huge difference to playing against JJ or Sandern :)

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Re: 'League of champions' questions

Post by BlitherPaladin9 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:52 pm

There should be a team League if Champions sometime. If you think my idea is horrible and that I should die quietly in a hole tell me why my idea sucks x)

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